Simmons also got to trot out of his (many) idiotic tropes in pointlessly detailed the passing of an imaginary championship belt between Brady and Peyton Manning, made even dumber than usual given that each QB had missed a full season during the span of time that was chronicled. What ridiculous nonsense will we treated to this week? I have my cyanide tablets at the ready in giddy anticipation of the worst, which is telling since it will be hard to top Thursday's petty feud with Mike Golic, truly a legendary battle of wits.
Revisiting the Y2K-Compliant Quarterbacks
Nearly 15 years later, I remember three things about Y2K.
1. It was overblown nonsense.
2. That hack writers would still be mentioning it as something relevant long after the world had moved on with life.
3. Pedro Martinez had the greatest pitching season in baseball history. No one denies this!
2. That hack writers would still be mentioning it as something relevant long after the world had moved on with life.
3. Pedro Martinez had the greatest pitching season in baseball history. No one denies this!
First, many people were legitimately concerned that computers would freak out at midnight, all hell would break loose, and we’d land in a real-life version of The Purge crossed with The Walking Dead … even though we didn’t know what either of these things were in 1999. It was secretly disappointing when midnight came and went without an electronic catastrophe.
For anarchists and psychopaths, perhaps.
Like so many others, I wanted to know what it would be like to live without electricity, loot grocery stores and murder others to survive. Maybe someday.
Holy crap, I hadn't even read this sentence before commenting on the last one. It's always the passive-aggressive entitled ones who are the most dangerous. I don't know why anyone was worried when there was a Twinkie factory in Natick, though.
Holy crap, I hadn't even read this sentence before commenting on the last one. It's always the passive-aggressive entitled ones who are the most dangerous. I don't know why anyone was worried when there was a Twinkie factory in Natick, though.
Second, the Y2K hype spawned one of wrestling’s greatest entrances — Chris Jericho’s “Y2J” gimmick, which claimed first place in my wrestling-entrances column that you probably blocked out of your mind.
And third, I remember thinking about the end of the world and being bummed out about one thing and one thing only: not that I’d be losing the chance to have kids or get married, not that I’d be losing my dream of building a big audience for my “Sports Guy” column, not that I’d be losing the last two-thirds of my life … but that I’d live and die without seeing a Boston team win a World Series or a Super Bowl.
Frankly, the only way that this opinion could be worse was if Simmons had been married with kids at the time. I'd put money on this Masshole still having that mindset today had all of his teams (keep that in mind the next time he bitches) not won titles over the last 15 years.
So yeah, Y2K feels like it happened roughly 70 years ago. And now, we’re starting to slap the makings of a century together. We’re 14 years in. The words “21st century” actually mean something. And in the 21st century, exactly 10 quarterbacks have won Super Bowls.
• Tom Brady (five times)
• Ben Roethlisberger (twice)
• Kurt Warner
• Trent Dilfer
• Brad Johnson
• Peyton Manning
• Drew Brees
• Aaron Rodgers
• Joe Flacco
• Russell Wilson
• Ben Roethlisberger (twice)
• Kurt Warner
• Trent Dilfer
• Brad Johnson
• Peyton Manning
• Drew Brees
• Aaron Rodgers
• Joe Flacco
• Russell Wilson
Fine, fine. You caught me. ELEVEN quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl in the 21st century.
• Tom Brady (three times)• Eli Manning (twice)
Well, that didn't take long.
Well, that didn't take long.
So what jumps out about that list? You know, other than the fact that Eli Manning won two f---ing Super Bowls?
And that Tom Brady lost two Super Bowls to said Eli Manning? I blame his harpy sisters.
And that Tom Brady lost two Super Bowls to said Eli Manning? I blame his harpy sisters.
• The weakest QBs? Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson definitely “game managed” their way to titles,2 which happened occasionally until the NFL changed its pass-defense rules so Peyton Manning had a better chance to succeed.
Brad Johnson in 2002: 13 starts, 62.% comp, 3049 yards, 22 TD, 6 INT. Perception /=/ reality, including ignoring rule changes against hitting quarterbacks low following Brady's knee injury in 2008. All riggage to Peyton, though.
Did you know that Baltimore won four straight playoff games with Dilfer completing 35 passes … total? And Johnson played for four teams, started all 16 games just three times and threw for 691 career yards fewer than Jon Kitna. But give him Jon Gruden’s offense and Tampa Bay’s loaded 2002 defense and what happened? BRAD JOHNSON COULD MANAGE THE GAME!
Did you know that Baltimore won four straight playoff games with Dilfer completing 35 passes … total? And Johnson played for four teams, started all 16 games just three times and threw for 691 career yards fewer than Jon Kitna. But give him Jon Gruden’s offense and Tampa Bay’s loaded 2002 defense and what happened? BRAD JOHNSON COULD MANAGE THE GAME!
There's also a footnote listing Johnson's mediocre playoff stats in the postseason which ignores his regular-season excellence and pair of TD passes in the Super Bowl, solely to dishonestly push a narrative. Stay classy, Bill.
Every time a Chiefs fan says, “I think we can win the Super Bowl with Alex Smith,” they’re really saying, “I mean, the 2002 Bucs won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson!” I don’t know. Those were different times.
*Ignores Ben Roethlisberger's career numbers in the Super Bowl* Also, didn't a "game manager" QB backed by a monster defense just win a title LAST YEAR?!
• The third-weakest QB on that list? Eli Manning. I’m the wrong person to shepherd a “Could the 2007 Giants and 2011 Giants have won Super Bowls with any decent QB?” conversation, if only because I might intentionally injure myself. So let’s just agree that the Giants scored 38 points combined in those two Super Bowls, one of which went New York’s way because their 17th-string receiver caught the last pass of his career with his helmet.
I agree that the Patriots scored a combined 31 points in those Super Bowls, couldn't sack Eli Manning, and couldn't stop a no-name wideout from burning their secondary. So we're on the same page, right?
• It’s too early to have an opinion on Russell Wilson’s Super Bowl, but the “Luck or Wilson?” debate finished filming in October. (Spoiler alert: Luck won.)
But Wilson is so charismatic!
Is Wilson an infinitely more athletic Brad Johnson? Is his 2014 performance suffering because his offensive line collapsed and he doesn’t have enough weapons (and not because we overrated him)? Or, could you say he’s where Brady was in 2002 — one year away from jumping a level, and three years away from jumping two levels, and five years away from finishing the video game? To be continued.
But Wilson is so charismatic!
Is Wilson an infinitely more athletic Brad Johnson? Is his 2014 performance suffering because his offensive line collapsed and he doesn’t have enough weapons (and not because we overrated him)? Or, could you say he’s where Brady was in 2002 — one year away from jumping a level, and three years away from jumping two levels, and five years away from finishing the video game? To be continued.
Wait, these levels went from being tiers of ability to parts of a video game? Someone has clearly been getting into the mushrooms hard.
• For four straight postseason games in 2013, Flacco had an out-of-body experience: 1,140 yards, 11 TDs, 0 picks, 9.05 YPA, 117.2 rating and one of the great season-saving miracle throws ever (the Jacoby Jones–Rahim Moore pseudo–Hail Mary). Bill Barnwell dubbed it the second-greatest postseason hot streak ever, trailing only 1989 Joe Montana and finishing 745 spots ahead of 1985 Tony Eason. Were those four Flacco weeks the football equivalent of, say, Nic Cage randomly crushing Leaving Las Vegas and winning an Oscar, then immediately reverting back to being Nic Cage? Absolutely. But you can never take away those four Flacco weeks, and you can never take away Nic Cage’s Oscar.
Please stamp "pointless Barnwell reference," "awful former Patriots QB," and "gratuitous pop culture analogy" on you Bill Simmons Bingo card.
Why bring up that Y2K list? For one thing, if you forced me into a 21st Century QB Mount Rushmore decision, I would bump Brees before Roethlisberger. Brees has six career playoff wins, one Super Bowl win and one conference title game appearance. He spent his entire career playing home games in 75-degree weather (San Diego) or indoors (New Orleans). And the team that drafted him eventually gave up on him.
After Brees was a free agent following a torn labrum in the 2005 season and the club already had a ton of money committed to the aforementioned Philip Rivers. Had the Chargers resigned Brees, it would've been one of the stupidest moves in NFL history, yet somehow would make the guy better in Simmons' tortured comparison.
Meanwhile, Roethlisberger joined the NFL three years after Brees — right now, he has 10 playoff wins, two Super Bowl wins, three Super Bowl appearances, four conference title game appearances and one of the great throw-and-catches in football history (the Super Bowl winner to Santonio Holmes that beat Arizona). He has also spent his entire career outdoors for the same cold-weather team. It’s no contest. For regular season — Brees. For everything — Roethlisberger.
Different week, same bullshit.
He’s the most underrated quarterback of the 21st century. It’s true.
But is he the Ryan Reynolds of quarterbacking or more like Shia LaBeouf?!
Could you argue that the general public doesn’t want to place him on that Brady-Rodgers-Manning pedestal because of whatever happened in that Lake Tahoe bathroom in 2009?
Or, perhaps, because he's not nearly as good as that trio.
Roethlisberger in his three Super Bowl appearances, which are held up as the only reason that the guy is in this conversation: 55-91, 60.4% comp, 642 yards, 3 TD, 5 INT, 14 att, 58 yards, TD. That's worse than anything produced by Dilfer, Johnson, E.Manning, and especially Brees, so let's ignore it!
That night earned him a six-game suspension from Roger Goodell (eventually dropped to four games) and damaged Roethlisberger’s reputation before eventually being settled out of court. In retrospect, every Goodell suspension seems suspect after how egregiously the commissioner botched Bountygate, then acted irresponsibly, incompetently and maybe even illegally and mendaciously after Ray Rice knocked his wife out (hopefully, we’ll have a result from the hearing about Rice’s re-suspension next week).
Passive-aggressive shot at Roger Goodell count: 1.
But Roethlisberger DID act inappropriately, and he DID get suspended, and he DID settle out of court.
So why don't people like him?!
I believe that incident affected how many fans regard Roethlisberger’s football résumé as a whole.
"Hey, this above-average quarterback who has one memorable positive play in three SB appearances probably raped a girl. Let's treat him like's only above-average!"
There’s a mythology that comes with Brady, Manning, Rodgers and Brees — great quarterbacks, great leaders, solid interviews, great “public” people. They say the right things and do the right things. They take extraordinary pains to be thought of as role models. And that’s why they land so many endorsements — because major companies desperately want to associate themselves with those four guys.
Meanwhile, I’m pretty sure that Roethlisberger hasn’t filmed a major commercial since 2009. (I couldn’t find one on the Internet, that’s for sure.) His national profile effectively consists of 16 to 20 football games per year, dozens of press conferences and the occasional “insightful” sitdown with Bob Costas (or whomever) that never reveals anything interesting. And we’re fine with it. That 2009 incident inspired us to collectively reject the mythology of Roethlisberger’s greatness, even though so many went the other way with Kobe Bryant earlier in the decade (in an undeniably similar situation). And that was the case for years and years. Quarterbacks are sacred to us, for whatever reason.
Kobe Bryant, possibly due to being a sociopath, can be charming and win back people. Ben Roethlisberger sounds like he took a UNC-level curriculum while at Miami of Ohio. I'm shocked that advertisers wouldn't be falling all over themselves to put their name behind a probable rapist who can't read cue cards.
But Roethlisberger’s recent 12-touchdown barrage, and his phenomenal season in general, propelled him back into that Great QB conversation once and for all. You know when I officially realized this? After I read this email from Kurt Hetrick in San Diego:
If it was so obvious, I don't think that the assistance of an idiot fanboy who was hoping to bait you into terrible pop culture references (and succeeded) would have been necessary.
Simmons then wastes a lot of time talking about quarterbacks who did not win and/or have not won Super Bowls, which nicely padded column space.
For everyone on that list — you need luck, timing, coaching and a killer support system just to sniff the Super Bowl, much less win it. Which brings us to Carson Palmer, who becomes The Most Underrated QB Of The 21st Century as soon as we stop underrating Roethlisberger.
Come on, America! Big Ben's been The Eagles for far too long!
You might remember me making fun of Palmer in this column many, many, many times. Many times. Many, MANY times. And I stand by all of it.
Until I contradict myself in just a few moments.
[Update: The Cardinals must think Palmer is underrated, too; tonight the team announced that it gave him a three-year extension that sources told ESPN was worth $50 million.]
Still, no 21st-century QB had worse luck than Carson Palmer did.Barnwell covered this angle perfectly less than 13 months ago on Grantland, so I won’t rehash it here. But I love playing the “What if?” game with certain never-quite-got-there NBA stars (Chris Webber, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, etc.) that’s framed around a specific question:
*Stamps "tortured NBA reference" on bingo card*
This conceit continues for a long while, including Simmons "jokingly" crediting a Barnwell article on Palmer and Grantland's magic powers for contributing to Palmer's bounceback season in Arizona. I say jokingly, as this is the same person who believes that crowds at basketball games have the same effect on outcomes as do the players. No one denies this!
This isn’t one of those Josh McCown five-game rope-a-dope situations.
Hilarious coming from someone who expected McCown to be a driving force behind a good season by what is a terrible Tampa Bay team.
Palmer has been playing extremely well for 13 solid months, even persevering when his receivers caught a recent case of the dropsies (mentioned here). Here’s how President-Elect Arians described his team this week.
“Swagger is a true belief. I think guys that talk a lot sometimes are trying to talk themselves into it. You watch for that. But our guys, I don’t see any cockiness in our football team. I see a true belief that we’re going to win every week. And our quarterback is Carson Palmer! Can you f-----g believe this????”
Fine, I made the last two sentences up.
Which is fine, since the entire world thinks the exact same way as does Bill Simmons even if they don't know it. He then follows up by further padding this monstrosity with rehashed info about Arizona's likelihood to regress and the team no longer being able to claim that no one believes in them - this despite the Cards only giving 7 points at home against a St. Louis team that hasn't been able to do anything on offense, even when stealing victories against the 49ers and Seahawks.
It goes on and on and on. You can SEE them in the Super Bowl. But I believe in the Cardinals simply because they remind me of the 2003 Patriots, an exceptionally well-coached team with a knack for pulling out close games.
From October 5, 2003, through February 1, 2004 (the Nipple Bowl), the Patriots ripped off 15 straight wins, with 10 coming by eight points or fewer. And look, I love advanced numbers for football. Those numbers tell us, emphatically, that there’s a pretty thin line between success and failure in close games, that a 16-game football season is a smaller sample size than we realize, and that your luck eventually reverts back to the norm (one way or the other). I understand and concede these points.
But?
But let’s also agree that, occasionally, a football team shows up that just seems comfortable playing close games.
Or isn't good enough to beat teams by healthy margins, instead relying on unsustainable luck which is given magical properties of clutchiness while a team on other side of the coin that keeps falling short by tight margins is always accepted to simply be running into poor luck. Narratives, though.
And yet, Arizona’s intangibles are just as impressive. I loved what Brian Billick wrote this week:
NOPE.
I’m in! I’m all in! Sign me up! I don’t care if the Cardinals have inadvertently become the “Everybody Believes In Us” team — they’re the NFC’s best football team, I believe in their tangibles and intangibles, and I even kinda-sorta-maybe believe in their QB. Besides, in a 21st century that’s been as goofy as advertised, it makes perfect sense that Carson Palmer would start a home Super Bowl game … right? Please manage your gambling wagers accordingly.
Flash back to two weeks ago when Simmons returned with a gambling strategy sure to break Vegas. Now he's throwing his weight behind sunshine, moonbeams, and four-leafed clovers. #SHRAP
On to the Week 10 picks …
Browns (+6.5) over BENGALS
I picked the Browns on Instagram because the line was three points too high,
Amazing thing that hindsight. Also, if you entered Thursday night legitimately believing that the Bengals and Browns would've been a Pick 'Em on a neutral field (in Wichita?), then you are the kind of person who posts entire emails from idiots talking about Morgan Freeman narrating Andy Dalton's meltdown and claims that it was sent the previous weekend and not after the Red Rocket's TNF disaster.
Jaguars (+7.5) over COWBOYS
My upset special: Jags 24, Cowboys 10.
My upset special: Jags 24, Cowboys 10.
Purely for future reference.
San Diego’s Bye Week (-5.5) over Washington’s BYE WEEKQ: Every analyst is jumping off the Chargers bandwagon like it’s carrying rabid dogs. Maybe it’s just out of room because it’s carrying all of Rivers’ children. Are the Chargers building themselves up to be the “nobody believes in us” team this year? They have all of the pieces — injured players that can fill the gaps, a defense that has been good when healthy, and a QB from the 2004 draft class that can catch fire. If Eli and Ben could do it twice, why can’t Rivers? NOBODY BELIEVES IN US!!
—Brian Djavaherian
BS: Glad you brought this up.
Because it allows me to defend another one of my bad preseason picks!
Right now, the Chargers are 5-4 and coming off three straight losses to a definite Super Bowl contender (Denver), a possible Super Bowl contender (Miami)
Hahahahaha, pure gold, Jerry! 0% chance that the Dolphins would be given anywhere close to this much credit had they not been one of two teams thus far to top the SuperPats.
and a probable 10-win team (Kansas City, a game that could have gone either way).
By my calculations, that's barely even a loss. Let's just give it to the Chargers and *poof* they're 6-3! Wow, things are really looking up in San Diego!
I mean … even I don’t believe in them. And I picked them to be a Super Bowl contender.
Despite claiming that none of their recent losses prove any weakness?
(In other words … literally, NOBODY BELIEVES IN YOU, SAN DIEGO!!!! Keep an eye on this one.)
Methinks thou doth protest too much. 1) Must every team be either believed in by no one or be massively overrated? 2) This is a fantastic hedge, as Simmons can brag if the Bolts rally to reach the postseason and slam them if they don't. Skipping ahead...
But you know what we DO need a nickname for? Anytime Mike Carey awkwardly breaks down any review of one of Jerome Boger’s atrocious calls. It’s like the streams crossing in Ghostbusters. Send me the best nickname and I’ll run it next week.
All Ref-e-ree Je-rome hatred is form of self-hatred.
Andrew in Ann Arbor: “Jim Caldwell’s weekday coaching deserves a nomination for Sneaky Good Watch status. The Lions commit considerably fewer dumb penalties, turn the ball over less, and are generally a much less stupid football team this year. Under Schwartz facing the kind of adversity they had the last few weeks, they would have fallen apart and been blown out.
I'm pretty sure that's because Jim Schwartz bites the heads off of small animals, making nearly anyone else technically an upgrade. Seems fitting that doing nothing makes Caldwell seems "sneaky good" to Lions fans, though.
Q: When we bet on sports, there are a crazy amount of variables to consider. One that’s never prominently featured is the Emotional X-Factor. I bet against the Steelers last week; you did as well. Did you know ahead of time that they were going to retire Joe Greene’s number at halftime of that game? I sure didn’t. I also bet against the Dolphins, not realizing that Joe Philbin’s father had just passed away just two days prior. Obviously, as soon as the game kicked off and the announcer emphasized the Dolphins were about to play “inspired football” I knew how that one was going to play out. Can you please make some room in your weekly columns to account for these kinds of non-football variables? Sometimes I really feel like they matter more than the actual players on the field!
—Michael S-G, New York
—Michael S-G, New York
BS: Couldn’t agree more. And I try to pick games accordingly. For instance, I felt bad for Philbin and his family, but at some point, you drift into “I wonder how that will affect the game” mode.
That stats-oriented manisfesto from two weeks ago will make great toilet paper if you buy the latest Grantland Quarterly.
SAINTS (-6) over Niners
I can’t believe the Saints have a chance to go from 2-4 to 12-4.
I can’t believe the Saints have a chance to go from 2-4 to 12-4.
Seriously. Since when do NFL teams play 16 games in a season?
JETS (+6) over SteelersQ: I can’t believe you wrote an article in which you bitch about the Patriots. Try being a Jets fan. Fuck you.—Dan D.
I like the cut of Dan D.'s jib.
Q: Watching the Sunday Night Football game and listening to Al and Cris marvel at the incredible “James Harrison was retired three weeks ago and now is somehow playing like one of the best linebackers in the game” story for the 50th time that quarter, I couldn’t be the only one to come up with an easy explanation for that “somehow?”
—Zach H., Cleveland
—Zach H., Cleveland
This email would be a better fit in this blog's previous post given that it shows how much idiots care about someone celebrating a(n illeged) steroids user, but have nary a word to say about NBC blowing the plethora of legit criminals (Harrison included) who starred in Sunday night's contest.
RAVENS (-10) over Titans
Broncos (-12) over RAIDERS
Broncos (-12) over RAIDERS
Two-Team Teaser alert!
Sound the alarm!!!!!
TWO-TEAM TEASER ALERT!!!!!! EASY MONEY AHEAD!!!!!!!!!
Get your act together, Vegas! A guy who went 7-6 last week has your number!
Rams (+7) over CARDS
Here’s where you say, “Wait a second, didn’t you just pick the Cards to go to the Super Bowl? Is this why your picks suck so much?” The short answers — yes and yes.
Here’s where you say, “Wait a second, didn’t you just pick the Cards to go to the Super Bowl? Is this why your picks suck so much?” The short answers — yes and yes.
The longer answer: This has all the making of the “Everyone teases Arizona because they’re a sure thing in the middle of a week of Super Bowl hype, only to freak out when the Rams go up 10-0” game. I see the Cards clawing back and winning by three or fewer.
I see terrible gambling techniques.
Quickly on the Rams: They’re the NFL version of me as a golfer. I started playing golf again this year after a self-imposed 20-year hiatus, which is actually a good story that I will tell some other time. In the past six months, I’ve played 15 times.
Because you got suspended for pissing off your employer - and yet you keep rubbing the noses of the everyday folks who supported you in that fact that your "unjust punishment" was merely a chance for you to enjoy a luxury vacation and copious rounds of golf.
Simmons then goes on to list his "shaky" players and teams, which included a gratuitous shot at Peyton Manning (of course) and the claim that Seattle's crowd is suffering from Pink Hat syndrome - which stemmed from people bandwagoning on the Red Sox, but, naturally, doesn't admit to that reality.
Oh, and by the way, Arizona took your “Best Crowd in the League” corner.
Oh, man, the Cards' regression is now going to be extra delicious. Come January, Bill will be listing the "obvious" reasons why Arizona was a fluke, yet not once noting that he already cited, and summarily ignored, them in order to go narrative-diving.
That brings us to the Sneaky-Good Watch for Week 10: Jeremy Maclin’s contract year, Miami’s pass D (first in QBR allowed), the ceiling of New England’s pass D, Jerick McKinnon, DeSean Jackson’s F.U. season, Brandon Browner’s 2001 Bryan Cox potential, Jamie Collins’s All-Pro potential, Ryan Tannehill’s athletic ability, Football Baby, Travis Kelce’s Heath Miller 2.0 potential, and anytime Jay Cutler comes to town.
Cutler and the Bears are 3-2 on the road this year, with the QB sporting the following stats: 120-176, 68.2% comp, 12 TD, 3 INT. Oh, but he totally sucks since the Greatriots lit up Chicago's crippled defense!
EAGLES (-7) over Panthers
Two of Grantland’s finest employees are Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan. They happen to be close friends, they occasionally drive to and from work together, and they can even communicate in staff meetings just by glancing at one another.
Two of Grantland’s finest employees are Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan. They happen to be close friends, they occasionally drive to and from work together, and they can even communicate in staff meetings just by glancing at one another.
"That sounds almost erotic."
(Gambling Manifesto Rule No. 72B: When in doubt, always bet against any scenario that might bring joy to Jets fans.)
Gambling Manifesto Rule No. 982B - addendum 15.7: A team wins three consecutive games after their backup tight end adopts a kitten - pick them to win the Super Bowl!
This Week: 1-0
Last Week: 7-6
Season: 96-39
Last Week: 7-6
Season: 96-39
The cake, er, record is a lie - and an unfunny running joke at that. Almost as tired as the footnote for it that contained another passive-aggressive dig at Roger Goodell. Is Bill Simmons' edginess now underrated?!